Bethel Redding singer Amanda Lindsey Cook’s Jesus as “Enlightened Master”?

“Happy Good Friday everyone. I never know how to greet people on this day….a day we mark as a moment in time when the Enlightened Master seemed to descend into shadows.”[1] — Amanda Lindsey Cook

Enlightened Master?

Bethel Redding worship leader Amanda Lindsey Cook is a gifted singer/songwriter, and her music can be heard in churches around the world.[2] After an interview with the Christian Post to promote her latest album, Cook drew attention for her strange comments about God–so strange, in fact, that Holly Pivec, co-author of two books on the New Apostolic Reformation, wrote:

In light of this interview, I believe churches should reconsider their use of her music and any other music coming from Bethel Church (or elsewhere) that is written by songwriters with such a woefully deficient view of God. [3]

Readers who follow Holly Pivec’s reports on the NAR and other subjects know she is not given to hyperbole. In her article, Pivec noted some of the puzzling statements Cook made about God during  the Christian Post interview:

  • “Every day I increasingly felt like gravity and the great beyond, called God, was working in my favor.”
  • “I love this divine essence that we so commonly refer to as God. I think it becomes this common, almost familiar thing that it has connotations because we basically impose our belief system on whatever we think God is when we say the word ‘God.’”
  • “I love the names that this essence and this divine presence gives itself. In the Old Testament, where God describes themselves as ‘I am,’ also the name Yahweh, ‘the intake and the exhale of breath.’”
  • “It’s this common acknowledgment, this communal aspect of living, where we’re all connected, we’re all part of the common thread … to be connected at the source to this divine presence, this Christ consciousness…”

Some of Cook’s comments seem as if they come from a contemplative practitioner or even from a new age perspective. My concern grew as I discovered she addressed Christ as the “Enlightened Master” in her Facebook post on Good Friday.

Who or what can enlighten God? Why would she use such a term?

Amanda Lindsey Cook has been in Bethel Redding for a number of years now. Is it possible her new age term for Jesus, “Enlightened Master,” and these other strange comments about God are the result of exposure to Bethel Redding teaching and to the deception of contemplative prayer?

Bill Johnson believes in a teaching called kenosis, an unorthodox, heretical belief that the Incarnate Christ laid aside His divine attributes and walked the earth as a completely limited, human man.[4] According to Johnson, Christ “performed miracles, wonders, and signs, as a man in right relationship to God . . . not as God. If He performed miracles because He was God, then they would be unobtainable for us. But if He did them as a man, I am responsible to pursue His lifestyle. Recapturing this simple truth changes everything.”[5]

In other words, Bill Johnson believes the miracles Jesus performed came about because He, as a man, and only as a man, had access to the power of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, Johnson teaches that Christians should be capable of wondrous feats of healing and miracles due to our own relationship with the Holy Spirit.

Thus Johnson’s kenosis doctrine serves to reduce the biblical Christ and elevate man. As one apologist points out:

Jesus is no longer unique, but only a special enlightened one who could lead the way to many such enlightened ones in the future. Thus we have a New Age Christ.[6]

Kenosis comes from a faulty understanding of Philippians 2:7:

but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.

Kenosis is proven false by the simple fact that Christ not only created the universe, but He holds it together. If Christ had given up His divine power and attributes and had operated only as a man until Resurrection, all creation would have come apart.(Colossians 1:16-17).

Is there some kind of explanation for some of Cook’s statements? Unfortunately, as of this writing there has been no response to questions we sent, and which were received by her management.

In Part 2 of this article, many of Cook’s disconcerting statements about God will be examined within the context of the theology-altering practice of contemplative prayer.

 

Source Notes:

1. Amanda Lindsey Cook, Her Facebook page, April 19, 2019

2.https://bethelmusic.com/artists/amanda-lindsey-cook/

3. Holly Pivec, Spirit of Error

4. Kenosis, Christology, and Bill Johnson, Crosswise Blog, http://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/2011/06/16/kenosis-christology-and-bill-johnson-part-ii.

5. Bill Johnson, When Heaven Invades Earth: A Practical Guide to a Life of Miracles, op. cit., Kindle location: 259.

6. Bob Dewaay, “An Invasion of Error” (Critical Issues Commentary, Issue 124 Jan.-Feb. 2013, http://www.cicministry.org/commentary/issue124.htm).

 

 

The Shack author brings new “Reformation” to the church

In an interview with The Shack author Paul Young several years ago,  Bethel Redding’s Kris Vallotton asked, “Do you think that this book is really a catalyst for Reformation in the church?” [1] (27:13 in video)

Paul Young replied, “I think this is part of whatever this is that the Holy Spirit is doing in the world.” [2] (27:23)

In another interview, given around the time the movie was released, The Shack author said, “I think that’s a move of the Holy Spirit. … I think we’re on the cusp or inside the beginnings of a Reformation.”[3]  (emphasis mine)

Great changes have indeed occurred within the visible church due to his books, beginning with The Shack, and now with Eve and Lies We Believe About God. Yet, this is not a Reformation, but a Deformation. This is not a move of the Holy Spirit as the author claims, but an infiltration of unclean spirits.

Bethel Redding’s Kris Vallotton is not alone in his admiration for Paul Young. Popular Bethel Redding speaker Abi Stumvoll frequently promotes Paul Young, his book, or his movie. [4] Young’s heresies are apparently irrelevant.

On Mother’s Day, the influence of The Shack was very clear when a congregation worshiped “Mama Ghost” and the “Mother”. A church leader spoke about the “Mother Heart of God” [5] which is also the title of a Paul Young teaching. [6] Reformation indeed.

One of the heavy hitters within the Bethel Redding sphere is Shawn Bolz, who has featured Paul Young on his podcast. Incredibly, Bolz plugged Young’s latest book, Lies We Believe About God, a book where The Shack author confirms his belief in universal reconciliation, also known as Christian universalism!

This is the belief that Christ’s death means all can enter heaven–every atheist, Buddhist, and New Ager, anybody and everybody, whether Christ has been accepted as Savior or not. In other words, heresy. Yet Shawn Bolz blithely mentioned the book at the beginning of the podcast. He said:

So today we’re talking to William Paul Young, he’s the author of The Shack, Crossroads, and Eve, and he recently released a non-fiction book, his first one, called Lies We Believe About God. [6] (37 seconds in video)

It’s also there in print on Bolz’s YouTube channel (July 9, 2018) :

In this Episode, Shawn Bolz interviews William Paul Young, who is the author of The Shack and his newest book, Lies We Believe About God. [7]

How is this even possible? By the time of this interview, Lies We Believe About God had been out for months. In the book, Young states, “Are you suggesting that everyone is saved? That you believe in universal salvation? Yes, that is exactly what I am saying!” (pg. 118)

Far from confronting his guest, Bolz also brings up the “R” word:

And what I love about this is you not only wrote this book [The Shack] but you’ve been defining a thought pattern, I think I don’t know if that’s the right word, but you’ve been defining a Reformation of connection to God, and I think it’s very beautiful. [ 8] (23:06 in video)

Paul Young is being used to hollow out the church from the inside. By the time this is all over, there may be a Christianity that appears biblical on the surface, but is lost in heresies and errant teaching.

James B. DeYoung, a retired seminary professor, has been warning about the effect of Paul Young’s books on the Body of Christ for years. He has written a book exposing the heresies in Lies We Believe About God.

This book of DeYoung’s should be in the hands of  pastors and church members everywhere. It is badly needed.

The Shack author has been used to bring far more than the Mother Goddess into the church. Here is the link to James B. DeYoung’s Exposing “Lies We Believe About God”: How the Author of The Shack is Deceiving Millions of Christians Again.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. (Hosea 4:6)

 

 

Like Jackals Among Ruins by Rick Becker

[Reader, errant movements such as Bethel Redding and the New Apostolic Reformation are world wide in scope. The following article by South African Rick Becker is an analysis of Bethel Redding’s Kris Vallotton.]

Rick Becker writes:

A study of the old testament prophets reveals a motley crew of individuals, aloof, persecuted, and tormented at times. Rejected by society and even God’s  people, these prophets delivered God’s word–described as a fire and a hammer that shatters rocks. (Jeremiah 23:29) In stark contrast, false prophets ignored the law and flattered their audience by appeasing wicked hearts who… (click here to continue reading article) 

Bethel Redding sister church that worshiped Mother Goddess to feature speakers aligned with “The Shack”

And when we burned incense to the Queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men? (Jeremiah 44:9)

If there is one church that absolutely doesn’t need  any more confusion about the biblical God, it is Bethesda NW. On Mother’s Day, the congregation worshiped the Mother Goddess. (Read) The blasphemous idea of El Shaddai as the Double Breasted One was introduced in early January of 2019. (Read)

It was stated in an earlier article:

The unclean spirit behind the goddess of The Shack, the novel written by Paul Young, is still at work. It seems more than coincidental that Bethesda NW, a Bethel Redding sister church,* uses Young’s hellish interpretation of El Shaddai; and just like in the novel, the Holy Spirit has also been feminized, addressed in the service as “Mama Ghost.”

Incredibly, scheduled June 22 as speakers at Bethesda NW’s Fully Alive Conference, are Bethel Redding heavy hitters Justin and Abi Stumvoll, a couple closely linked with Paul Young, author of The Shack.  In the following video, Abi teaches not from the Bible, but from….Paul Young, whom she refers to as “an incredible mentor and friend to me.” (Watch)

In April 2019 the Stumvolls spoke at Catch The Fire where Ash, the woman speaking,   acknowledged them as “part of our Bethel family.” (59 seconds in video, link in paragraph below ) Justin has served as pastor at Bethel Redding and Abi has served as pastor at Bethel School of Supernatural Minstry, and as staff member at Bethel Redding.

At 5:09  in the video, Abi states: I also want to say, Ash is more like God…have any of you seen the movie, The Shack? They cast the Holy Spirit wrong, it’s Ash. You want to know what the Holy Spirit looks like, it is her. (Watch)

The Stumvolls and Paul Young, author of The Shack, have even collaborated on “The Father Series” described as a “transformational audio e-course” to “help you get healing from your past and empower you to step into a great future.”(READ–scroll down, Paul Young is #5 in the teaching in the 12 Part Audio E-Course)

In March of 2017, Paul Young came out with his book, Lies We Believe About God. After publication there could be no doubt about Young’s heretical view of God, because he admitted what many of us have known all along.

In the words of one reviewer:

The Lies We Believe About God would be a great read if it weren’t for, well, his heresies. Yep, heresies such as universalism, no hell, God submits to us, denial of our sinful nature, denial of God’s sovereignty, and a denial that sin separates us from God. (Link)

The information is readily accessible. Why, then, is this Bethel Redding couple going the way of the Mother Goddess? Why do they keep promoting Paul Young, his book, and his movie?

Can two walk together except they be agreed? (Amos 3:3)

From the time Paul Young first published his book, The Shack, with the goddess character in the place of the Father, the visible church has been suffering from this heresy. And please, don’t tell me it’s just a book.

Here is what I believe is happening. The Lord is allowing this The Shack/Mother Goddess/Bethel Redding confluence to become evident. He is warning His people. We should be praying for those who are under this deception–but it is also time to draw some boundaries.  It is time to understand this thing is in the visible church.

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. (Ephesians 5:11)

Mike Oppenheimer, a researcher/writer, recently informed me that the demonically influenced William Branham taught this unholy double breasted version of El Shaddai decades ago. Branham, associated with Latter Rain, a movement determined as heretical by Assemblies of God in 1949, is nevertheless admired by Bethel Redding’s Bill Johnson.

Interestingly enough, Tisha Straup in her Bethesda NW sermon of 5/26/19, spoke of El Shaddai, the Double Breasted One, and discussed a dream that Latter Rain preacher Ma Beal had testified about decades ago.

Mike Oppenheimer writes, “Speaking of God as El Shaddai Branham used the many breasted God as his interpretation.” He then provides these quotes from Branham:

“Actually the Name was “El Shaddai.” I may not pronounce that word just right: El Shaddai. Now, “El” is God, like Elohim. “Shad” is “a breast like on a woman.” “Shaddai,” is plural, “breasts, breasted.” Then He is the breasted God.” (59-0423, Abraham’s Seed, Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, San Jose, CA)

And God called him out, and He said, “Abraham, I am El Shaddai. I’m the Almighty.” Now, the word, “El Shaddai” comes from the word, “bosomed,” means like “the woman, the breast.” “I am El Shaddai,” the breasted God, God with two breasts, like the woman.” (57-0106, Jehovah-Jireh, Arnold Memorial School, Cleveland, TN).

Speaking of Abraham, “He was what? El Shaddai, the Breast. So in other words He would be the mother to God–or to Abraham. Is God a Mother? Sure He is. We are borned of God. Is that right? So that makes God our Mother. God is our Father. God, in Christ is our brother. Is that right?” (56-0816, The Working Of The Holy Spirit, Prince Albert Arena, Prince Albert, SK).

Here is the link to Mike Oppenheimer’s well researched website. 

The Paul Young/William Branham/Bethesda NW misunderstanding of El Shaddai, as Breasted One, Double Breasted One, Many Breasted one etc. is refuted here.

Can you imagine Abraham or Paul believing this of El Shaddai?

Let’s close here, for now. There is more to be said regarding Branham and The Shack, and also more on Bethesda NW and the misuse of El Shaddai.  The spirit behind the Mother Goddess is influencing many, and this seduction is only going to increase.

 

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Letter to Lighthouse Trails about “Mother Goddess Worshiped at Bethel Redding Sister Church” article

Mother Goddess Worshiped at Bethel Redding Sister Church: The article LHT posted by Carl Teichrib says it all, “Earth Day and a Total Transformation for a Post-Christian World.” Mother Earth is the Deity and the so called church is now switching over to worship of this pagan deity. And no marvel, they are already totally apostate, so don’t worship the true God anyway. But it is a seductive insidious attempt to get people to think their god is the true god. First, in the Shack, it was presented as allegory, and so this was a cunning way the enemy of our soul used to snare people into thinking of God in a different way by feminizing him. Carl states in his article: “In Grecian times, the supreme Earth deity was Gaia, also known as the Universal Mother.” This is where we are at, total blasphemy against God and total apostasy. And I don’t believe this is limited to only a few “churches”, it is spreading, as Carl states in his article that: “Sadly, pastors and congregations around the world are parroting the message of Earth Day and the leaders of global environmental governance.” We are on the verge of seeing this global counterfeit religion completely take shape. Heidi

Letter in Lighthouse Newsletter 6/10/19

Spirit behind The Shack: Milk from the “Double Breasted One”?

[The video of the Bethesda NW sermon is at the end of the article.]

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; (1 Timothy 4:1)

In the previous article, “Mother Goddess worshiped at Bethel Redding sister church,” we stated:

The unclean spirit behind the goddess of The Shack, the novel written by Paul Young, is still at work. It seems more than coincidental that Bethesda NW, a Bethel Redding sister church,* uses Young’s hellish interpretation of El Shaddai; and just like in the novel, the Holy Spirit has also been feminized, addressed in the service as “Mama Ghost.” (Read article)

The church service celebrating the Mother Goddess took place on Mother’s Day. Yet, the introduction to this teaching–this spirit–began in early January 2019.

Excerpt from Bethesda NW sermon 1/6/19:

Pastor Ben Straup — It’s a sign of abundance. The womb, full abundance. Then when the baby comes out what happens? Yeah, they’ll cry, but they’re, what are they saying? They’re  not afraid to say, hey I need something.  But the thing I love the most is when, oh, but before I show this picture I just want to say El Shaddai.

Everyone’s heard the word El Shaddai, right? So El Shaddai means Sufficient One, the One that supplies everything above and beyond. It also means, the other translation for that is Double Breasted One. How many of you have ever thought of that?

It’s kind of a funny thing to think and say, But Double Breasted One. But what does that have to do with the nourishment of heaven, and the milk of heaven. The land that they were going to was going to be flowing with milk and honey. There’s a flow that sustains and brings nourishment to the baby.

I love it when you see babies that look like this. [picture on screen] Or, let’s put the next one up, like this. [picture on screen] Or, like this. [picture on screen]

That’s called milk drunk. I think we all need to get a little more milk drunk.

Or, like this. [picture on screen] Complete bliss and ecstasy. I mean, that says it all. Message is done. We need to live in abundance. Boom.

Okay, the reason why I want to show some visuals like that is to get us to think, to really shift our mindsets a little bit on how we think of God, how we think of our situations, and where we’re going and where our hearts going…

This would change how one thinks of the biblical God, all right. This is what Paul Young, the author of The Shack, wants; and many in the mainline churches want this as well.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ephesians 6:12)

This is a hellish teaching. I am asking those who are reading this to pray for this pastor. I have watched enough of the Bethesda NW services to know he is a man who loves his flock. This is an important part of being a pastor, but not the only part.

The fact is, the enemy is busy, time is short, and this increasingly popular misunderstanding of El Shaddai helps the enemy worm his way into the Body of Christ.

Watch video from 138:01 to 140:04 and related links are below, including an analysis of  why El Shaddai does not mean breasted one, or double breasted one.

Watch video from 138:01 to 140:04

El Shaddai does not mean “breasted one” or “double breasted one” (READ)

Mother Goddess worshiped in Bethel Redding sister church (READ)

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Mother Goddess worshiped at Bethel Redding sister church

[Reader, the video has been removed by Bethesda NW. Anticipating this, a copy has been saved and the video will soon be restored.  Transcriptions in the article below]

The unclean spirit behind the goddess of The Shack, the novel written by Paul Young, is still at work. It seems more than coincidental that Bethesda NW, a Bethel Redding sister church,* uses Young’s hellish interpretation of El Shaddai; and just like in the novel, the Holy Spirit has also been feminized, addressed in the service as “Mama Ghost.”

Paul Young, author of The Shack, would be proud:

“El Shaddai, the double breasted one.” (Tisha Straup, Bethesda NW sermon on 5/26/19)

“Do you need healing from a Mother? Only comes from El Shaddai.” (Bethesda NW worship leader on 5/12/19)

The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger. (Jeremiah 7:18)

It began on Mother’s Day with the worship team. They sang:

12:58 Mama God, will you talk to us?

13:12 Do you need healing from a Mother? Only comes from El Shaddai.

19:32–20:27 Let God be God in every situation, let His presence flow, let His presence flow, let God be God in your situation, let His presence flow, let His presence flow, let God be God in your situation, Mama Ghost will flow, Mama Ghost will flow, let God be God in your situation, Mama ghost will flow, Mama Ghost will flow…

25:07 I will lean back in the loving arms of a beautiful Mother, I will breathe deep and know that She is good, She’s a love like no other…

25:53 I will breathe deep and know that She is good, She’s a love like no other…

During this worship session, the words were occasionally on the screen behind the musicians and singers. Sometimes the word “Father” was on the screen, and sometimes it was the “Mother.” 

According to Pastor Larry DeBruyn:

The name “breasted one” appears to be sourced in feminist spirituality. In Part One (“The Feminine Divine in the Hebrew Scriptures”) of her book, Delighting in the Feminine Divine, Bridget Mary Meehan, states that, “D.F. Stramara translates El Shaddai (a name for the Divine in the Hebrew Scripture as ‘God the breasted one’.)”[7] But for several reasons, the inference that the divine name El Shaddai means “breasted one” is ludicrous. It is a meaning pulled out of thin air. It is an imagined meaning. [1]

The claim that El Shaddai means double breasted one, or breasted one will continue to infiltrate the visible church. We are in deep waters. Goddess worship is gaining in popularity. We now dwell in a metrosexual/ homosexual/beta male culture, where attacks on the character and nature of the biblical God are accepted  and encouraged–and yet, this is happening not just in the culture, but also in the visible church.

We know from His Word that He does not change:

For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. (Malachi 3:6)

Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow. (James 1:17)

We know that God is Spirit. He is neither man nor woman. Yet, God in the Bible is always referred to as “He” or “Father,” or “Him,” never “She,” or “Mother,” or “Her.” If we really, truly believe God is the author of the Bible, this should mean something. We are not to change His Word, and we are not to change its meaning.

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish aught from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. (Deuteronomy 4:2)

Trying to present God as goddess because Christ used the simile about a mother hen  protecting her chicks, as this pastor attempted, is ludicrous. (Matthew 23:27, Luke 13:34) Dads and grandpas and uncles can be pretty protective and tender as well.

Once the worship was finished, Bethesda NW Pastor Ben Straup came on stage. He said:

26:12 You probably noticed that you’ve been singing Mother a lot of times instead of Father. Obviously, there’s Father God, but how many know there’s a beautiful expression, El Shaddai, of who God is. And the full expression of who God is, is both male and female. And we’re just feeling like, there’s people in here that actually have, there needs to be healing when it comes to moms in the room, and so we’re just kinda goin’ after that. Yes, we believe in Father God, we believe in Jesus Christ, we believe in the Holy Spirit. Yeah, we’ll probably switch it back to the Father also but there’s something that’s happening in the room with healing and ministering for moms and mothers. And the beautiful full expression of who God is, is wrapped up in male and female. 

So, uh, I know it might kinda just feel a little bit different that we’re doin’ this, but I just felt like there’s people who are actually gonna get healed from the Spirit of Adoption. There’s just mom wounds that are gonna get healed today. And I know that we could do that through singing He’s a beautiful Father, which He is, but sometimes it’s just kind of good to feel that Mother side of God also. Just that El Shaddai, the comforter. The one that comes in and just gathers you like Jesus said, like the chicks, like gathering the chicks, oh I wish I could gather you and bring you in. So, let’s just continue to worship. Yeah I just thought I’d come up here and give a little context to that.

28:22 [The singing starts again]: I will lean back in the loving arms of a beautiful Mother, And I will breathe deep and know that She is goodShe’s a love like no other… 

114:42 The pastor announces there will be a Sozo training.

122:22 Tisha Straup:: We don’t talk much about the Mother side of God, but the Mother heart of God is wrapping around you.

What is really being wrapped around the mostly young people in this congregation is the heretical belief it is acceptable, even appropriate, to worship the Lord as a goddess. This is paganism disguised as Christianity.

Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both to yourself and for those who hear you. (1 Timothy 4:16)

Churches with a Bethel Redding mindset, so to speak, are usually far more interested in spiritual experiences than in the Word of God. The pastor of Bethesda NW has been informed about the misuse of El Shaddai, but this Mother’s Day “teaching” demonstrates–once again–the growing danger of the worldwide Bethel Redding movement.

This includes far more than the goddess teaching specific to this particular church.  Bethel Redding under Bill Johnson has shared or encouraged aberrant teachings from Dominionism to grave soaking to contemplative prayer to kenosis.

People will continue to be drawn to Bethel Redding and her sister churches through the power of the music. Guests like Rodney Howard Browne will be lauded, and experiences such as being “slain in the Spirit” and “drunk in the Spirit” will be seen as proof of the power of God (or goddess, if we are to believe the Bethesda NW teaching).

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1)

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. (2 Peter 2:1)

What is happening in our culture, around the world, and in the visible church is biblical, in the sense that we are in a prophetic timeline. A counterfeit church is coalescing; and we have been warned by the very Word of God.

(Reader, Bethesda NW has removed the video. Fortunately, a copy was made and we will replace the video soon.)

(Go to 12:58, 13:12, 19:32–20:27, 25:07, 25:53, 26:12, 28:22, and 122:22 in the video.)

(Go to 12:58, 13:12, 19:32–20:27, 25:07, 25:53, 26:12, 28:22, and 122:22 in the video.)

Part 2: Spirit behind The Shack: Milk from the “Double Breasted One”? (READ)

Source Notes:

1. The consequences of role-reversal in The Shack, by Pastor Larry DeBruyn, Herescope

 

*On Bethel’s Global Legacy website, Bethesda NW is listed in the directory along with other associated churches and groups. Although Bethel Church gives a disclaimer saying that the listings “do not imply any affiliation or endorsement,” the term “sister church” is used where there is a strong likemindedness in vision and practice and shared teachings and personalities between each other.

For example, Justin and Abi Stumvoll will be speaking soon at Bethesda NW. Justin has served as pastor at Bethel Redding and Abi has served as pastor at Bethel School of Supernatural Minstry, and as staff member at Bethel Redding.

Danny and Sheri Silk recently spoke at Bethesda NW. ( 5/17/19) Danny  has been with the Senior Leadership Team of Jesus Culture and Bethel Redding. Link Danny and Sheri served 13 years at Bethel Redding before departing.

In the video below, the Bethesda NW pastor discusses their experience at Bethel Redding where, he says, not only were they were prophesied over, but earlier prophecies were confirmed. He also mentions some of Bethesda NW’s core values, and says “Bill Johnson was the one who coined those,” and that they can be found on the internet. (From 8:36 to 10:08)